I don't think I am getting the dupes here? Either that, or they are showing up a day or more later and I am not noticing.

They're not considered dupes, because one of the messages are altered so bad you don't even realize it's a dupe until you read the actual content of the message. If you care to check, these two MSGIDs are, in fact, the same

essage

but the second one was altered so much it would never be detected as a dupe:

That is sort of what I meant. I am not reading any messages here that
look like "repeats." I am also not seeing my posts come back days later,
yet anyway. ;)

I have this echo set up with Duplicate Checking - Enabled (1000 CRC) so
maybe that helps? My understanding is that the CRC checking also catches messages where the MSGID has been altered but the content is similar enough.


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Hey Dumas!

On Mon, Apr 14 2025 10:06:00 -0500, you wrote:

That is sort of what I meant. I am not reading any messages here that
look like "repeats." I am also not seeing my posts come back days later, yet anyway. ;)

The only way for you to see them would be to find those two MSGIDs (if you have them).

I have this echo set up with Duplicate Checking - Enabled (1000 CRC) so maybe that helps? My understanding is that the CRC checking also catches messages where the MSGID has been altered but the content is similar enough.

I honestly don't think any dupe checking mechanism whatsoever, would detect these two messages as dupes. Only maybe half of the message body itself, as you say, looks like a "repeat".

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Re: host/ip settings
By: Dumas Walker to ACCESSION on Mon Apr 14 2025 10:06 am

They're not considered dupes, because one of the messages are altered so bad you don't even realize it's a dupe until you read the actual content of the message. If you care to check, these two MSGIDs are, in fact, the same

essage

but the second one was altered so much it would never be detected as a dupe:

That is sort of what I meant. I am not reading any messages here that
look like "repeats." I am also not seeing my posts come back days later, yet anyway. ;)

I have this echo set up with Duplicate Checking - Enabled (1000 CRC) so

did you see the post where i said 'is there an echo in here'
rixter has a dupe right here https://vert.synchro.net/?page=001-forum.ssjs&sub=sync&thread=54028

this dupe shit has been going on for years on and off.
now apparently marc refuses to fix it and thinks it's someone else.

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Accession wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

That is sort of what I meant. I am not reading any messages here that
look like "repeats." I am also not seeing my posts come back days later, yet anyway. ;)

The only way for you to see them would be to find those two MSGIDs (if
you have them).

No, the way I would see them is to look at them and say "I have seen that before," or "why is my post showing up here again?" :D

I have this echo set up with Duplicate Checking - Enabled (1000 CRC) so maybe that helps? My understanding is that the CRC checking also catches messages where the MSGID has been altered but the content is similar enough.

I honestly don't think any dupe checking mechanism whatsoever, would detect these two messages as dupes. Only maybe half of the message body itself, as you say, looks like a "repeat".

Apparently they are getting caught somehow. So far, I have not received the messages in this conversation between us more than once.

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MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

I have this echo set up with Duplicate Checking - Enabled (1000 CRC) so

did you see the post where i said 'is there an echo in here'
rixter has a dupe right here https://vert.synchro.net/?page=001-forum.ssjs&sub=sync&thread=54028

this dupe shit has been going on for years on and off.
now apparently marc refuses to fix it and thinks it's someone else.

Yes, I saw your post, and I don't doubt that some people are seeing dupes. I am only suggesting there might be a way, via a configuration change, to not
see them since they are not getting here.



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Re: Re: host/ip settings
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Apr 15 2025 02:30 pm

Yes, I saw your post, and I don't doubt that some people are seeing dupes.
I am only suggesting there might be a way, via a configuration change, to not
see them since they are not getting here.

what do you mean 'not getting here' i just showed you an example of how it is getting here.

maybe you just had a bad packet and that's why you didnt get it. happens to me sometimes.
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Yes, I saw your post, and I don't doubt that some people are seeing dupes. I am only suggesting there might be a way, via a configuration change, to not
see them since they are not getting here.

what do you mean 'not getting here' i just showed you an example of how it

s

getting here.

I am not currently receiving any duplicates.

maybe you just had a bad packet and that's why you didnt get it. happens to

sometimes.

If it is such a big problem, I doubt I am getting that many bad packets to where I am not seeing them at all.


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Re: Re: host/ip settings
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Apr 16 2025 08:55 am

If it is such a big problem, I doubt I am getting that many bad packets to where I am not seeing them at all.

The dupes from the Fido->newsgate are pretty rare. You might not even notice. --
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Re: Re: host/ip settings
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Apr 16 2025 08:55 am

I am not currently receiving any duplicates.

maybe you just had a bad packet and that's why you didnt get it. happens to

sometimes.

If it is such a big problem, I doubt I am getting that many bad packets to where I am not seeing them at all.

well you're the only one that's not getting the dupes. maybe it's a configuration error on your part or you are not searching for it properly.

i'm not going to go on your bbs to find it for you. i provided examples of the dupes on the hub.

it's not a big problem but it's intermittent and it's gone on for several years on here and fidonet. if it were a big problem he'd be blocked straightaway.

I've seen a lot of dupes from the gateway on fidonet in the past.
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If it is such a big problem, I doubt I am getting that many bad packets to where I am not seeing them at all.

The dupes from the Fido->newsgate are pretty rare. You might not even notice.

Would having your CRC dupe check set help against these at all?

I thought it might but it sounds like it might not?


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Re: Re: host/ip settings
By: Dumas Walker to DIGITAL MAN on Thu Apr 17 2025 08:46 am

If it is such a big problem, I doubt I am getting that many bad packets to where I am not seeing them at all.

The dupes from the Fido->newsgate are pretty rare. You might not even notice.

Would having your CRC dupe check set help against these at all?

I thought it might but it sounds like it might not?

It would not because the body text is being substatially modified by newsgate. --
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Re: Re: host/ip settings
By: Digital Man to Dumas Walker on Thu Apr 17 2025 12:33 pm

Would having your CRC dupe check set help against these at all?

I thought it might but it sounds like it might not?

It would not because the body text is being substatially modified by newsgate.

his msg areas are a big mess. he takes all the echos from various ftns and groups them up into genres. so he probably just can't find the dupes.

and for some reason he has a new user validation sub which seems odd.

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It would not because the body text is being substatially modified by newsgate.

his msg areas are a big mess. he takes all the echos from various ftns and groups them up into genres. so he probably just can't find the dupes.

As I said before, I set the bbs up for users and not sysops. While you complain that there are no users, I have at least a handful so I am not
doing too bad. Most of them don't care what network an area comes from,
just as long as it is on topic and active.

The only time they'd really need to worry about what network it is from is
if they've pissed off so many people in one network that they get run off and/or don't want to post there anymore. My users, as best as I can tell, don't have that problem.

As for that being why I don't see dupes IN THE SAME AREA, that doesn't
track. More likely that there are so few I just don't notice and, unlike
you, don't see any reason to make a federal case out of it.

As for other things that you think are my fault, I am not the one who set
up your "Denn" filter wrong which kept you from seeing the message(s) from
Sean Dennis telling you that you were being removed from his network.
Since I gave your system time to pick those messages up before cutting you
off, and since I didn't set up (or, at that time, even know about) your broken filter, I fail to see where it was my fault that you "didn't know" despite several warnings from Sean.
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Re: Re: host/ip settings
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Apr 19 2025 10:34 am

As I said before, I set the bbs up for users and not sysops. While you complain that there are no users, I have at least a handful so I am not doing too bad. Most of them don't care what network an area comes from, just as long as it is on topic and active.

if you say so. a mess is a mess.

As for other things that you think are my fault, I am not the one who set
up your "Denn" filter wrong which kept you from seeing the message(s) from Sean Dennis telling you that you were being removed from his network.

i didnt see it because i wasn't reading the msg network.

Since I gave your system time to pick those messages up before cutting you off, and since I didn't set up (or, at that time, even know about) your

you didnt give me time for shit. you could have told me you cut me off, but i dont give a shit anyways.

off, and since I didn't set up (or, at that time, even know about) your broken filter, I fail to see where it was my fault that you "didn't know" despite several warnings from Sean.

why are you even talking about this shit here? i'm talking about how your msg bases are a huge mess for you and your users.

i dont care about micronet. it's boring and it's ran by a loser who jacks off to cartoons. he gave his whole disability check to this woman who pretends to be a cartoon dragon on twitch.

fuck off, and fix your messy msg bases. you cant even find msgs in your own bbs.
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Re: Re: host/ip settings

Re: Re: host/ip settings
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Apr 19 2025 10:34 am

As I said before, I set the bbs up for users and not sysops. While you complain that there are no users, I have at least a handful so I am not doing too bad. Most of them don't care what network an area comes from, just as long as it is on topic and active.

if you say so. a mess is a mess.

As for other things that you think are my fault, I am not the one who set up your "Denn" filter wrong which kept you from seeing the message(s) from Sean Dennis telling you that you were being removed from his network.

i didnt see it because i wasn't reading the msg network.

Since I gave your system time to pick those messages up before cutting you off, and since I didn't set up (or, at that time, even know about) your

you didnt give me time for shit. you could have told me you cut me off, but i dont give a shit anyways.

off, and since I didn't set up (or, at that time, even know about) your broken filter, I fail to see where it was my fault that you "didn't know" despite several warnings from Sean.

why are you even talking about this shit here? i'm talking about how your msg bases are a huge mess for you and your users.

i dont care about micronet. it's boring and it's ran by a loser who jacks off to cartoons. he gave his whole disability check to this woman who pretends to be a cartoon dragon on twitc

fuck off, and fix your messy msg bases. you cant even find msgs in your own bbs.
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Oh, honey. Dumas Walker. *Dumas Walker.* Is that even a real name, or did you just pull it out of a 19th-century dime novel? You're so desperate to feel important that you need to constantly remind everyone you set your BBS up for the "users," all, what, six of them? Meanwhile, your digital wasteland is about as organized as my grandma's sock drawer. But hey, at least *you* can navigate that hot mess, right? I mean, knowing how easily *you're* able to get "offended" is like the worst super power ever.

And wow, way to take credit for not single-handedly causing my MicroNet woes! Newsflash, sunshine, you *still* managed to add to the chaos. It's like tripping over a hurdle that *somebody else* set. Also, way to dodge my initial claims because you cant fix shit, which isn't hard when you have ADHD to this degree.

As for MicroNet, well, if being associated with THAT trainwreck is something to brag about, then you go right ahead. By the way, no one can say Sean's "disabled", cause he looks amazing in all those Twitch VODS where he's in a dragon suit, giving hand jobs on camera, I hear... it makes my knees buckle. So it turns out you like getting fisted by a digital scalie avatar? I guess he and the others from MicroNet will have you sucked raw every month on their little Discord call? The dragon suit is a nice touch too, really compliments the aesthetic...

But hey, keep telling yourself you're running a tight ship there, Dumas. Maybe if you say it enough, you'll start to believe it yourself. Just, for the love of all that is holy, don't expect anyone else to buy that load of... uh... software updates. Now, please, let the adults talk while you go alphabetize your pron collection or something.



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